Transcript: Ezra Klein Interviews Leslie Kean

These historical patterns show us it is entirely human to turn to the supernatural, conspiracy, spiritualism and the occult in our effort to make sense of how new technology and media might change us, both individually and collectively. It is one big cope, to regain a sense of control in a time of uncertainty and difficulty.

The time for a broadened, or expanded, sense of reason—far broader than generative A.I. will ever achieve—is upon us. It’s time to shed the shackles of secular humanism and walk boldly into a future where the human spirit is not contained in a Twitter-shaped box in which Lex Fridman wonders out loud whether or not he’s real or an avatar.

what I definitely believe is that the great religions, all of them and the great mystical traditions of Buddhism and Taoism, and so on, have central truths that they hold in common, and that these are a kind of wisdom that are not appreciated, unless one is brought up in a tradition that helped one see

them. And our tradition is dead against seeing

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